THAT’S US? …The German Palatines of New York (1700’s)

The only reason I included this article was because of something I heard a couple of years ago from an ex-student of mine that married a Klock. I asked about the possible family connection, since I knew our name was often spelled that way, instead of ” Clock”, several centuries ago. The way my student heard the story was: that ALL Clocks and Klocks in America are related. Another reason I listened to the story was because my Dad (Charles L Clock) always said that our ancestors were from Germany (not Holland). And my great grandfather’s autobiography says that he believes our family came from Germany.  So I listened to the history of the German Palatines that moved from Germany, down the Rhine River, to The Netherlands, to Britain, then on to New York. I was thinking that just might be us. It also explained the town of Clockville/Klockville, NY which I noticed when I was doing my research on Jacob Wilkie Clock (my great grandfather) in 1986 …when I could not tie the town to our family. And if I remember correctly, Klockville/Clockville is in the Mohawk Valley region of NY…. right where large numbers of Palatine German immigrants settled!

But after reading this article (below) and comparing it to all that is presently known about our Clock/Klock ancestors …it doesn’t really add up that they were German Palatines. For numerous reasons, perhaps the most important being …the year of their arrival in Br America was decades after my family did.  Read the article below and see if you agree with me ….or my old student from Newport High School. Which? Why?
(BMC)

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German Palatines

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The German Palatines were natives of the Electoral Palatinate region of Germany, although a few had come to Germany from Switzerland, the Alsace, and probably other parts of Europe. Towards the end of the 17th century and into the 18th, the wealthy region was repeatedly invaded by French troops, which resulted in continuous military requisitions, widespread devastation and famine. The “Poor Palatines” were some 13,000 Germans who came to England between May and November 1709. Their arrival in England, and the inability of the British Government to integrate them, caused a highly politicized debate over the merits of immigration. The English tried to settle them in England, Ireland, and the Colonies. The English transported nearly 3,000 in ten ships to New York in 1710. Many of them first were assigned to work camps along the Hudson River to work off their passage. Close to 850 families settled in the Hudson River Valley, primarily in what are nowGermantown and Saugerties, New York. In 1723 100 heads of families from the work camps were the first Europeans to acquire land west of Little Falls, New York, in present-day Herkimer County on both the north and south sides along the Mohawk River. Later additional Palatine Germans settled along the Mohawk Riverfor several miles, founding towns such as Palatine Bridge, and in the Schoharie Valley.

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1875 MAP OF CLOCKVILLE, upstate NY (near Oneda & Syracuse):


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PRESENT DAY T SHIRT DESIGN:


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(BMC)

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Enough about me. More importantly, this blog is intended to be a gathering spot for all available materials relating to the Clock family, past, present & future ....an interest of mine for many years.
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One Response to THAT’S US? …The German Palatines of New York (1700’s)

  1. Geri Hubbard says:

    Hi Clockbear…..I happened upon your site…. it’s very nice to learn of other Clock descendants searching for their roots. I descend from John Clock / Stamford/Darien, CT and, of course, like your family, I have traced my line back to Abraham Clock. John moved from Darien CT to Long Island, NY….so I guess you could call us the Long Island, NY Clocks…..His son Peter Clock b 1739 Stamford, CT married Susanna Kilts. Peter died in Islip, Suffolk County, Long Island, NY in 1804. Peter’s son, Ebenezer b 1760 Darien, CT married Nancy Acker. Ebenzer’s death date is not known at this time. Ebenezer’s daughter Ruth Clock b 1792 Islip, NY married Hallet Thurber and she died 1835 in Islip. Ruth’s daughter, Hannah Thurber b 1809 in Islip married Charles Hubbard. The aforementioned couple are my g-g-g-g-grandparents. I have visited their graves many times….both are buried in a double family plot in Oakwood Cemetery in Bayshore, Long Island, NY.
    Years ago, I found a letter (online) written by Seth Clock (he is Hannah’s first cousin) of Bayshore, L.I., NY to distant relatives in Stamford/Darien CT. In the letter, written in the 1800s, he inquired if the Clock family was Dutch or German. I have no idea if they responded nor…the content of the response. Point being….even as early as the mid 1800s, my line had “lost” the connection to their ancestors. Seth owned a dry goods store in Bayshore and was the town’s Notary Public.
    For some time I pursued the notion that my Clock line may have been Walloons. Many of the Dutch were, in reality, Walloons. In the records left to us, there was not much distinction between the actual Holland-Dutch and the Holland-Walloons…probably because the Walloons were living in Holland among the Dutch for years and, as immigrants to NY, they cited Dutch heritage. The name I was searching was Clocq. Ultimately, I finally uncovered a “Pelgrom Clocq”…..he worked for Gov Peter Stuyvesant…..long story short, I am quite confident that we are Dutch….and not German or French/Walloon. However, I am ALWAYS prepared to review new information and, if warranted, revise my records.
    So, happy hunting and I enjoyed your site !
    Best Geri

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